Werewolf Game 5.1: Trouble in Steelwater Bog

I more or less covered this. If Roy is the fake oracle, I see no reason to target Hazel.

If Roy is the actual oracle, killing Hazel will make Roy appear suspicious, and through connection with the lover / witch, it would kill a special innocent as well in case Hazel does not survive. Since Hazel belongs to the evil faction in this scenario, it would even be beneficial for her: a sacrifice that could result in our total blindness.

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Also, with kingkaio claiming to be the witch and lovers with Hazel, I see no reason for other people that are actually those roles to not reveal them now.

I am not the witch.
I am not a lover.

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I might be going about something wrong, but wouldn’t it be optimal play for the snatchers to kill me and hope that the which had used their potion n1? Because killing one lover will kill the other and if we are both innocent, they can kill two birds with one stone. Seeing as there was only one witch claim, I think this is the case. They even might be able to do some weird think with roy to get them out of suspicion.

I am not the witch, although I am in love.

Also if I was a snatcher, why would I want to risk dying? Cause like I hate dying.

IC:

Dear Maze,

How have you been thus far on the trip? Do you want to go adventuring with me when we get back? I’m sure you can use your potions to do something cool to defeat monsters!

I don’t have any plans after this currently and would love to have you as a companion on this adventure with me. Please come with me. I don’t know what I would do without you at this point. Without you I don’t have a purpose or a reason to go on.

Please consider join me in hunting monsters after this is all over.

Love,
Hazel Axeny :slight_smile:

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Actually, strike that last suggestion about having the real witch come forward.

If you are the real witch, kill kingkaio tonight with your killing potion.

Witch, given what we know now (where no one has yet contested the oracle claim), please do not kill Roy.

Protector, continue to protect Roy every night, and remain concealed.

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If the protector remains concealed and roles are not revealed upon their death, the snatchers have no other choice than to target a random person one night and Roy the other night until they happen to have killed the protector.

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@kingkaio, why are you still voting to kill Roy(@syoon)? Do you understand how your misplay has given the snatchers an opportunity to pull a ploy over you? Please do not make another mistake in killing Roy with you poison potion tonight. If Roy is indeed a false oracle, then the real oracle should come forward to expose them.

There’s very little reason for a real oracle (besides Roy) to remain concealed, since several players have already come forward denying that they are the oracle (and giving credible reason why they wish to see the oracle reveal). From the perspective of the snatchers, they can narrow it down even further, since they know who they are, leaving only a few that might be the real oracle (if Roy is lying).

Are you the oracle?

  • Yes
  • No

0 voters


@papavero, @李建澔2, I hope that you both can participate more actively in hunting the soul snatchers. Your lack of participation throughout the days makes me suspicious of both of you. Although there are more urgent matters for now, you two are also on my suspects list.

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I support all of this.

And I am also not the oracle.

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@kingkaio, please think again carefully about what Vsotvep said:

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And by the way, if this is not clear: If syoon / Roy is the real oracle, this does say nothing about Hazel. Hazel could be a soulsnatcher, or Hazel could be innocent, we don’t know.
At the moment, I tend to believe that both are innocent.

Dear Hazel (@Haze_with_a_Z)

I’m in sort of a weird situation right now. Everybody’s looking at me weirdly so maybe I shouldn’t be writing to you. When Ms. Sapphire gave me this note she frowned at me. I’ll meet you in the forest next to the werebird cave at 2020-09-09T23:00:00Z. Is that okay? I’ll explain things when we get there.

Love, Maze

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Roy claimed he discovered that Hazel is a soulsnatcher. Surely if Roy is the real oracle, he’d speak the truth?

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Äh. Yes, you’re of course right. My mistake, sorry!

Kayo blushes. I guess, I’m not fully awake yet!

OOC: And KAOS is not fully awake anymore. Should go to bed soon. :wink:

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Wanna go for a walk, get some fresh air? wink

Quite interesting, sacrificing one of their own in order to seem like I’m a soulsnatcher. Bravo, I have to say. You managed to put the entire team is confusion.

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Anyway, I have my proof that I’m the oracle. Butch(Vsotvep) is innocent.
Why might I have investigated Butch? Quite elementary.

He can be quite convincing and logical: If all the people with special roles do end up all dying I trust that Butch will manage to find the soulsnatchers given all the info.

So Haze was targeted. Let’s say for a tiny fraction of a second she was innocent. Why target her? Why not anyone else? It doesn’t make sense besides the fact that they were lovers. Why try to kill off the lovers now? If anything, killing off Haze if she was innocent doesn’t have great importance strategically. They could kill the other lover, target Butch or me, or even kaio since hes the witch. Killing a random innocent would just give the other players more time.
What if she was a soulsnatcher? We discusses that no matter who gets killed off, the witch will save that person. Thus, there really isn’t any penalty for sacrificing anyone important, innocent or soulsnatchers since they all live to the next day. If Haze was targeted this would attempt to discredit all information that I’ve said and leave the group in a huge mess. It would also seem like Haze is innocent and I’m a soulsnatcher.

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I’m now down to 9 total people, 2 of them which are soulsnatchers. I hope to look into some more clues to see who is who.

I’m surprised no one else has claimed to be the “oracle” and try to counter my claims. My chances that Haze would try something like this were high, but guess not. Hopefully I am cleared by now.

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No unfortunately I am not the oracle. I am just an innocent lover.

Although, I have come to the conclusion that it is probably 1 of 2 worlds.

World 1: syoon is a soul snatcher. They try to kill me at night to get rid of two people or the witch’s potion. They have many people in the thread whom are either pocketed by them or their partners or just are their partners. The oracle in this world is one of the quiet ones or the ones that haven’t been on at a good point to claim. And the oracle I don’t think has a reason to vote “no” in the above poll, and if they didn’t want to share, they could just not fill the poll out.

World 2: syoon is oracle. They are for some reason trying to fake claim a red check on me for a reaction. If this is the case, I don’t see how it helps at all and they should rescind and state their real check. It doesn’t favor anyone to keep your checks hidden after a claim and I really don’t think they should be that way.

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Dear Maze,

Why is everyone looking at you weirdly? I can go there and try to stop that! I don’t want people to treat you like that. Do you know why Ms. Sapphire frowned at you? What happened? I’ll meet you at this cave so can you please explain your situation. I don’t want to put you in trouble somehow and I wish to help you fix whatever is wrong.

I promise you, I will get you out of this situation. Just you wait and see. There has got to be something that I can do to help you.

Stay safe and I hope this works out!

Love,
Hazel :slight_smile:

@kingkaio

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I really think we must kill someone today. It’s not only strength in numbers, but 3 heads are better than two and they remaining ones might get pressured to give themselves away.

Why 9? You got 2, I guess you got yourself as a given, isn’t it 8?

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