Choice in saying if I was the oracle or not on the first day. Besides, a good amount of people were suspicious of Roy to begin with.
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Saying you’re the oracle on the first day would’ve been pointless.
I emphasised second day to mark that I find that early, not late.
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And what if I had been killed on the 2nd night? Wouldn’t it be better to just outright say who I am rather than to maybe get killed? Even though it’s a 1/12 chance and you might seem like that’s a low possibility, its definitely possible. If either the witch or the protector gets accidentally killed, then saying that I’m the oracle would just get me killed. This is also basing on the fact that maybe the witch did use the potion to revive the first person. My point being, the longer that we wait the more dire the situation becomes.
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On the 3rd day lets say I managed to survive until then and say I investigated 2 people on the first and second nights and they were both innocent. Its much easier to make the claim that someone is innocent compared to someone is a soulsnatcher due the the difference in numbers. I luckily managed to get a soulsnatcher on my first try, this isn’t guaranteed on the 2nd and 3rd nights.
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That would’ve been tough luck for us. It’s happened before in Werewolf games. On the other hand, in the Martian game, we had Ruby wait quite long, which in the end managed to grant the innocents the win, since he had gathered so much information.
It’s a good decision to come out as the oracle now that you have found a soulsnatcher. This is probably more valuable than waiting another night with the reveal and risking the information to be lost.
It is not a good decision for the innocent faction to immediately believe you just because nobody is contesting your claim to be the oracle. We’d possibly just facilitate the soulsnatchers by killing an innocent without fail. Moreover, if Hazel is indeed the lover, we have quite a big chance of killing two innocents if Hazel is voted out, and quite a large chance of starting tomorrow with three less innocents if the witch already used her potion in the first night.
Why risk that, when we can just wait with killing Hazel until you are killed by the soulsnatchers? That way we don’t have to risk killing an innocent. It’s not like the soulsnatchers would be more powerful with an extra member as long as we can outvote them, and it’s not like you would be doubted after you are killed. We’ve got nothing to lose by waiting.
Put yourself in the shoes of a lying soulsnatcher, surely you can see my point, right?
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To spread out the options:
- Roy is the oracle and Hazel is a soulsnatcher: we get confirmation of this when Roy dies in a couple of nights, upon which we can be guaranteed that Hazel is a soulsnatcher, and vote her out the same day.
- Roy is not the oracle and the real oracle shows up tomorrow: we just wait which one gets killed first, and believe all the information this oracle has said. Also, we’d kill the other oracle that day, since it’s then a confirmed soulsnatcher
- Roy is not the oracle and the real oracle never shows up (because they’re killed for some reason, without revealing themselves), then Roy will not die in the next three nights, so after that we can be quite sure Roy is a soulsnatcher, and that Hazel is a confirmed innocent.
Regardless of which scenario is the actual scenario, the oracle will get to find more information each night, and declare it the next day for everybody to know. Killing Hazel does not limit or help this factor in any way.
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For killing Hazel then that was a mistake on my part. I hadn’t read all the rules and realized that the game was blind elimination until after I announced the fact and tried to get Hazel killed. (Thought by killing Hazel her role would be announced which would be proof as to I’m the oracle)
My idea then was If I managed to get all the names of the 3 soulsnatchers and then decided to release the info, it would have been too late. On the flip side, I figured that if we found 1 soulsnatcher already and decided to kill immediately it would make the other soulsnatchers worried. This is in part to why I chose Hazel - due to the nature of her texts and how she wanted to get rid of people under the pretense of maybe killing off a soulsnatcher.
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I definitly agree with butch’s plan. Not killing anyone is our best option right now.
OOC:
Sorry for my lack of partecipation, this week end was really busy for me. I’ll be more active from now on.
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Yeah, I first wanted to kill Hazel too, because I thought if they are really in love, maybe the second death will reveal some information, too, but that’s a bit cruel, no? Sorry for scaring you, Hazel.
What happens if there are no dead people by tomorrow? The oracle will have another clue, and we too will now if the protector or the witch have used their power.
Anyway, the fact that our Brickhead here uses logical reasoning like his life depends on it (oh wait, it does!) makes my think that he is a normal innocent person without a special role. His right hemisphere will be very useful for our cause, so we should keep him around as long as we can.
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OOC:
I should be working right now, but I guess I also should read the almost 50 posts that were written during the night… 
I am against that. At the moment, it’s not in our interest to know who protector and witch are and to endanger them.
I think, Vsotvep is right. (Except for the soulsnatchers knowing who the witch is by tomorrow - that can be the case, but doesn’t have to.)
Is that a strategy we can agree on? The witch reviving whoever gets killed tonight, and the protector protecting someone of their choice?
Again, some good thoughts.
I haven’t thought it all through, but I guess Vsotvep is right.
Apart from that, I am quite confident of two three things now:
- Buch / Vsotvep is innocent.
- Hazel and Maze Lander / kingkaio are lovers.
- The lovers are either both innocent or one of them is a soulsnatcher, but definitely not both.
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Only half a brickhead, thought the right hemisphere.
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Ah, ok. Don’t worry, you didn’t do anything wrong (assumed you are the real oracle). It was the right time to speak up, so the information won’t be lost when you’re killed.
But you also need to understand that we need to be suspicious and can’t just trust you totally.
Also, it would imho be a big mistake to kill Hazel today, no matter if she is a soulsnatcher or not, because if she really is one of the lovers, then the other lover must be innocent, and we don’t want to risk killing an innocent person alongside Hazel, right?
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You mean, killing you alongside Hazel?
No, that was a misunderstanding. I am not Hazel’s lover.
According to Hazel, she is in love with @kingkaio a.k.a. Maze Lander.
However, if I haven’t missed anything, Maze Lander has not confirmed yet.
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I agree with Brick strategy, but I vote we keep 3 votes on Hazel, just to prevent a last minute day snatching. You never know.
Butch could be a snatcher trying to save their buddy, but I’ll go along for now.
So, Kayo, you still free tonight then? wink
How would keeping 3 votes on someone prevent day snatching?
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In case snatchers decide to pull a last minute kill. Highly unlikely, but why risk it.
Also, as a vote of confidence in Roy, since it won’t actually kill someone.
Wait why?But I am innocent.
Maybe explain why you voted to kill yourself.
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I didn’t know what to do yet and I was afraid as we usually get someone out in the first round I didn’t want to start with no one.
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