There seems to be this new option after a game and I’m not sure how I should select.
What is a good sport?
What impact will this have?
Is the player going to get demerit points if he is deemed as a bad sport by many?
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@Sadaharu You raise excellent questions.
While the motivation would seem to be to promote a positive community spirit, the blowback effects of this are more likely to produce results that range somewhere between pointless to perverse.
“Social credit” systems are fraught with challenges.
Feels like, over time, the reality of being proactively asked to rate each other in this way is more troublesome than genuinely helpful. Just my $0.02.
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people will click “not a good sport” when:
- opponent didn’t write “hi” or “thank you” in chat when have no technical ability to do so
- opponent did write “hi” and “thank you” but not in English
- opponent didn’t grant undo
- opponent didn’t resign and played until pass when behind
- opponent resigned too early when they were behind
- opponent timeouted in blitz
- opponent played too slow
- opponent played too fast
- opponent used unusual opening and won
- opponent had a lower rank and won
- opponent didn’t accept rematch
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Isn’t this a bit anglocentric?
What about "opponent did write “你好，谢谢” (Nǐ hǎo, xièxie) in Chinese
(“hi” and “thank you”) but was answered in English? Also not a good sport?
BTW isn’t the Meta category more fitting for this thread?
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This does seem like a feature which shouldn’t be deployed without a little help icon next to it with a link to a documentation page and moderators briefed on it.
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I would think under OGS development.
On the question itself, it does feel a bit uncomfortable, we are passing judgement on our opponent, so the obvious question as raised by Sadaharu is what impact will this have?
Depending on context, another option could be a less pointed question like “Did you enjoy the game?” This would be closer to a thumbs up/thumbs down system as used on youtube and other platforms. But Go is a two player game with a specific opponent. So the same models may or may not apply. But what happens in Rengo or team games?
I have many questions.
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Probably is true. Although I appreciate the spirit behind this feature, my hunch is that the exact people it’s supposed to expose are those who will abuse it due to being a bad sport 
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@benightedfolly Welcome to the forum! 
{I’m giving you 2 thumbs up 
}
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Even if the opponent did all these, if the player lost very badly due to a big blunder, I’m not sure whether he will be in the mind to press the thumbs up button.
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What happens to OGS?
Some ICE/MAGA inspiration?
I feel sick of the world.
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In my opinion this is a good feature to filter out some unpleasant players who think they can cross every line because it’s not an in person game but it needs to be hardened against manipulation before going live.
You can already report the player if they do anything unpleasant to you.
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I thought Meta is for OGS Forums and not OGS itself.
I changed to OGS development which may be more suitable.
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I suspect that the motivation behind this feature is to discourage players from filing reports for escaping, stalling, etc., in order to reduce the report load on the moderators. The idea is to let people vent by clicking that button, reducing the chance that they will file a report.
It’s a terrible idea that potentially contradicts the principle of no public shaming (we don’t know for sure, because what it means has been concealed from us).
As a data collector, it is meaningless, as @square.defender points out. If its only purpose is to allow people to vent, then it is dishonest.
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I don’t think there is public shaming since the number of thumbs up/down is not displayed publicly.
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You can’t say that for sure, because we don’t know what is going to be done with the data. That is why I said “potentially.”
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Let’s assume these results are not displayed publicly. Then I’d wonder what is the purpose of collecting the data in the first place?
If they’re only data for Admins to see, then it’s unclear how this lightens their load (vs. dealing with behavior reports which would have otherwise been submitted, perhaps with more definitive info about a problem than just a 
?)
Still not seeing how rating each others’ being a “good sport” (or not) is truly helpful toward promoting a positive community atmosphere.
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Does the rated player see the thumbs down? If so, it is an additional way for trolls to insult their opponent. In that light, would a shadow-banned troll still be able to rate an opponent?
So many questions, which is why this feature should have gotten an explanatory announcement when released.
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Couldn’t agree more. We all can speculate until we are blue in the face, but without the motivation of why this was implemented, it is probably a waste of energy. So I will wait until there is an official motivation for this new feature.
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Who knows? Perhaps users are imprisoned the moment they receive 10 downvotes!
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