What is exactly a hane?

Me dive into history isn’t just for semantic or historical curiosity but also about how concepts like “hane” evolved over time.

The origin of this term came from the ancient Chinese text 玄玄棊經, which was a collection and compilations of even older texts (some sources we no longer know their full contents or authors). It was compiled by an author who visited one of the strongest Go players at the time in the Yuan Dynasty around the 14th century. It was one of the earliest surviving printing press Go books when printing started to get widely used commercially (hence, more likely to survive and spread being mass produced). This book came to Japan, likely around the same time (one copy still existed in Japan), and one of the complied chapters is called 圍棊三十二字釋義 “the explanation of the 32 terminologies/words for weiqi” (立 行 飛 尖 粘 幹 綽 約 關 沖 覷 毅 剳 頂 捺 蹺 門 斷 打 點 征 㠔 聚 劫 拶 撲 勒 刺 夾 盤 鬆 持), which the word 綽 later became the source of the word “hane”.

However, if we looking deeper into these 32 terminologies, we will find that there were more than just 綽 has a similar shape and meanings compared to the more “modern concept”. The words 約 捺 蹺 㠔 also utilize the same “hane” shape, the differences between them have more to do with intention than the shape themselves. The original 綽 means to reduce the territory of the opponent (like in yose, when you hane at the 1st line or 2nd/3rd line, hence a hane from below type). The word 約 means blocking the path of the opponent’s dragon’s head, hence more like a “side hane”. The word 捺 means to block from the top and limit the development to the center (a top hane). The word 蹺 means when both sides had been in a contact extending race, one side decides to “bend” to gain the upper hand, and exchange weakness to gain sente (let the other to hane, and you can tenuki). The word 㠔 means when there is a fight coming, you actively hane, where the opponent has no choice but to cut (a sente hane so to speak).

From the 14th century all the way to the late 19th century this book and chapter were repeatedly translated into Japanese (with Japanese pronunciations), as late as 1878, we can still find Go book using the exact translation word for word. However, in the 1880s and 1890s, things started to change, especially when Hoensha was established, they published a lot of new Go textbooks to promote Go. Like this book in 1897 titled How to Learn Go Quickly by Yourself, still copied the 32 terminologies, but their “explanations” started to defer. Examples were given, and concepts like 蹺 would include the word 綽(hane) to explain it. This trend continues, where one of the earlier (simpler) terminologies hane was used to explain the later terms, and in a 1935 Go book for the beginner, they were reduced from 32 words to 25 words, and there were only 2 words 綽 and 約(おさへる osaheru) left to represent the concept where hane was more about hane from below like in yose, and osaheru was more about hane from the top to limit/block the opponent. We can even find an earlier version of this simplification in a book for quick learning of Go, where the incomplete 14 words were introduced instead of the full 32 words, and the word osaheru had already taken a slightly different meaning than hane, which include not hane, but about the shape of “blocking” the opponent (disregard the sequence of moves).

Whether or not to use shapes, move sequences, or intentions, I feel the concept of hane is constantly evolving, and redefining in every generation and even in different cultures and languages. The Chinese concept of 扳 (also a newly coined term) differs from the ancient terminologies and becomes a lower-level fundamental shape word, while the intentional terminologies at a higher level like 擋 are still in use but can be combined with other low-level terms, where combo terms like 扳頭 for older concepts like 捺.

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In this position I would rather expect L2 to be the hane you want to mention (not considering the quality of the move).
The denomination may be a bit of abuse because it can be just the best available and enough to describe even if it’s not fully in accordance with what a hane is.

Why? L2 does fit Samraku’s definition, so would not be a counterexample.

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That’s on the fuzzy edge of the definition, imo. Whether or not it’s a hane depends on the focus of the comment, I think

Check the SL page:

B1 is a bulge play.

It is a hane play, backed up by the marked stone already in place to form a V.

It’s a hane, but you may not use the word hane to describe it in text but a more specific word like bulge. But per SL, a bulge is a specific kind of hane. Just like if you describe a particular bird as a penguin, it doesn’t stop being a bird.

I’m just saying that if you use hane to describe a next move here, I may get more prone to think on L2 if you don’t add “on the top”. And my opinion is that it’s because L2 looks more like a hane move

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Yes the resulting shape is the tiger mouth shape, but when it’s the middle of the 3 stones which is the last played, it’s more specifically a bulge.

Really interesting. How a little word can be full of history and meaning

In response to side attachments to single stones there’s always a choice of 2 hanes: hane on top or hane under, e.g if white p3 black has p2 and P4 hanes so your need to disambiguate.

You need if you think both are hane. I may not consider L4 at all

Before the printing press, words and writing mediums are “expansive”. It makes sense for the ancient players to “concentrate” concepts into “single words”. They have the incentive to aggregate based on intentions.

Imagine the era when cheap papers haven’t been invented without a full Go set how do you tell and discuss a game with another player? (where the realistic cheap written medium was bamboo slips). How do players even record their games or recall their games when drawings are very expensive? How do they teach their students? It started to make sense why ancient players would resort to less ambiguous terminologies, whereas a game is more about the “story of intentions”.

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Yep it’s interesting how words evolved (here about the splitting of hane in 2 different categories for example).

And sometimes I am bit reluctant on Sensei library, when new words are quickly introduced as a new reference without that much checking if it’s used or not and if it makes sense or not. Don’t want to look like a traditionalist but many times it’s more like a suggestion as a fact. Take bulge for a concept which was just mentioned. Did I ever read this word once in the English go litterature? I am not denying that the language may evolve, I just don’t like the way to put it as a (new) reference on Sensei.

Well, SL is a wiki so any random can add rubbish but it probably won’t last long. It is much less active now than it used to be: it has quite an early-2000s Charles Matthews bent to its language, and indeed checking the bulge page it was created by Charles in 2002. He uses it in his popular ‘Shape Up!’ book, hosted here on OGS https://cdn.online-go.com/shape_up_v1.2.pdf. It’s perhaps not found in the James Davies et al Ishi Press / Kiseido books of the 1970s-80s.

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Dictionaries don’t define language

Just checking if I understood it correctly, that’s the way you use the word hane (“definition by use”, let’s say …) and because:

no stones other than {B, C, [D]} are orthogonally or diagonally adjacent to A ,

all intersections from 1 to 5 must be empty before the move A (without stones of either color)? And D can be extended to the right, no problem, I believe.

example

With this in mind, in my first examples you would only consider a hane: 2, 3, 6, 8.

And here, E is not a hane because of the atari:

example2

The restriction of the diagonally positioned stone is really a meaningful difference between yours and @Uberdude 's definition.

I think I messed up the definition, D was meant to be diagonal to A and restricted to the opposing color

In that A,B,C,D-diagram B is the hane. A might be considered one too, but that move is way less common.

Depends on the move order. D could be an extension after the hane at A. A and B are both hane moves, just depends which was played first.

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True, but given the context (trying to apply the definitions) it doesn’t make any sense to include the answer to the hane in the diagram.

I was trying to follow the definition of @Samraku

A move A such that in relation to existing stone B of the same color, A is one diagonal step away from B , there exists exactly one stone C which contacts both A and B and it is of the opposing color

I guess my “D” brought confusion. If it isn’t there, B already exists, so it’s the first move. C would be the the second and A the third. But following the paragraph, there’s an optional D

there optionally exists a stone D which contacts C and is one diagonal step away from A, no stones other than {B, C, [D]} are orthogonally or diagonally adjacent to A , and the move meaningfully reduces the liberty count of the opposing string which C belongs to but does not atari or capture it

, so I already put it there. In this case, for things to work, I think the order would be … CBDA ? Anyway, I just thought that BCD are already there and “A” would be the final move.

Your very first idea is very near the definition. I would say that you missed maybe the possible cut, the fact that the stone is in contact and alone and that it doesn’t have to be originating from a straight line as we can use the word when starting from a contact move on a single stone. This last point is proven by its extended use in the go litterature in studies of how to manage a contact move on a single stone.

Then the wonderful historical study given up by @Counting_Zenist show the evolution of the concept like the split between hane to interfere when going to the center or hane on the edge.

Nowadays, the use of the word may be even more extended, as long as the initial basic shape remains preserved. Something like "a second contact single move following another one going around the same opponent stone. "

Note that in the dia 29 offered by @shinuito there isn’t this idea of going around. I suspect that this dia is not included in the chapter about hane (the text explanations starting with dia 30) I would rather call this position a nose tesuji.

Trying to get a precise meaning is at time a difficult task with go terms because their meaning is associated with some tactical or strategic ideas beyond the simple attempt of describing a position. For hane there is the blocking the path to the center, always play at the head of 2 (3) stones, hane as a sabaki technic, or as a yosumiru on a shimari, or “there is death in the hane” proverb. There is the double hane tesuji There are debates when reviewing a game and where hane is often a candidate but not always the right choice, so a definition may involve considering different alternative moves. All this to say that defining a go term is more complex even when it seems to be a pretty simple position.

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