color me stupid but how are those two issues combined?
What’s super odd about that combo is that the Palestinians are … let us say … not known for their LBGTQ tolerance.
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What do you mean? Can you post a picture?
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As far as I’m aware that political combination is more often seen in the United States.
In the Netherlands you will more often see a combination of environmental activism and anti-racism with Palestinian flags.
LGBTQ+ is not as much a polarising issue here on the progressive-conservative political axis, because our conservatives are not as tightly linked to conservative christianity as they are in the United States.
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I don’t get this either. David Wood’s theory was that the left and the Islamists both think they can use the other group to their advantage against common enemies before taking them over too
We have a political party here that aims at Muslim voters as well as ethnicity-related inclusivity voters (DENK, getting some 2% of votes in elections).
They side more with Palestinians, viewing their treatment by Israel as a form of apartheid (a Dutch/Afrikaans word referring to the former racial segregation policies in South Africa).
Economically they are center-left. Most of their votes come from urban areas.
But they are quite ambiguous when it comes to LGBTQ+ issues. On those issues DENK will side more with our most conservative Christian party (SGP, also getting some 2% of votes in elections).
But I think SGP strongly sides with Israel, maybe because they consider it the Holy Land for Christianity.
Economically they are center-right. Most of their votes come from rural areas.
I don’t think they are proponents of inclusivity at all. Only recently they allow women to be on the ballot for their party (when they were about to lose their government subsidies because of their discrimination of women).
So I’d say that people who advocate inclusivity for minorities based on ethnicity here are distinct from people who advocate inclusivity for minorities based on sex/gender orientation here.
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Back on topic, it’s technically possible to use a flag as avatar and another flag as “country” flag, so any association of two flags is possible.
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I don’t think OP was curious about the technical side of the matter. I interpreted it more as a political question.
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If it’s a political question then: in France, far-left parties like LFI tend to support all groups which are viewed as oppressed minorities, for instance migrants, Muslims, Palestinians, LGBT,…
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On the far-left we have the more progressive Party for the Animals (PvdD, 2% of votes) and the more conservative Socialist Party (SP, 3% of votes). They both codemn the violence from Hamas as well as the violence from Israel and call for a ceasefire. Also they both condemn the position of our government that sides more with Israel.
On LGBTQ+ issues both parties tend to vote in favour, I suppose because they are in favour of protecting human rights in general.
Our far-right (secular) conservative party Forum for Democracy (FvD, 2% of votes) is ambiguous. I suppose that on the one hand they are anti-Hamas (because they are Muslim extremists), but they are also pro-Putin who seems to side with Hamas. Either way, FvD takes a more isolationist position, advocating restraint in our meddling in the Middle East.
On LGBTQ+ issues they tend to vote against, because they oppose “wokeness” in general (they would use that term for policies that promote inclusivity or positive action).
I’d say that FvD is a secular party, but they often side with religious parties on moral/ethical issues. But I also get the impression that neither Putin nor Trump are particularly religious. I suppose their alliances with conservative Christians are mostly a matter of political convenience for all parties involved.
Perhaps those alliances between various progressive activist groups and pro-Palestinian groups is a similar phenomenon on the other side of the political spectrum, i.e. more a marriage of convenience than a marriage for love.
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I haven’t heard of any alliance. (Although i guess they are supporting him)
I meant more a de facto alliance than an official agreement.
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What image are we talking about?
[Image please]
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So where is the issue exactly? There are people who support Palestinians not being slaughtered or attacked. Surprise surprise the same people support LGBTQ people not being slaughtered or attacked. Where is the disconnect?
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So as you say, we are stupid to think that all palestinians are as you describe them.
Honestly I know nothing almost of the life there, i never been or talk that much with the palestinians people…
According to Wikipedia, LGBTQ+ people in the Palestinian territories do experience persecution and violence. But I don’t think human rights activists have a policy to only speak out for people who agree with them on all human rights issues.
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Ok so they exist at least.
I think they exist everywhere. It’s just much more difficult for them to exist in some places than in others.
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Asking the questions we’re all thinking, but were too afraid to ask! Based on the forum we’re in, I assume they’re talking about this one, but idk
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I’m confused; I see this, still
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Me too.
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