Are you worried about coronavirus?

I’m having a déjà vu like you won’t believe.

Well, the police has to follow some rules and face some accountability from the public. The hooligans have no such issues and inhibitions and are, therefore, much more efficient in intimidating potential troublemakers. It really makes sense. After all “official” hooligans are sometimes better organised than actual police. They have guardhouses, storehouses with “usable stuff”, a rigid hierarchy and they follow orders without question and with a passion (since they do what they do willingly, not for a salary).

If you are keen on being suspicious, it also makes sense from the “nice shop you have here. It would be a shame if we were to move our squad elsewhere, no?” perspective. I am not saying that they do that actively, but if a hooligan squad saved your store, wouldn’t you be keen to donating some money to them to restock their equipment?

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This sounds like rubbish to me, though. These are football hooligans, not mafia. The main common factor of football hooligans is that they get extraordinarily upset by anybody who insults their football club. By extension they seem to have the same reaction with people destroying their city.

Also, the shop owners have nothing to donate: most shops are having a terrible year, are close to bankruptcy, or have already gone bankrupt. That’s what makes the riots sting so much: in their “fight against the police state” they’re mostly hurting those who are already hurt most, as well as helping our society move closer to an actual police state.

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I’m sorry, do your hooligans throw roses after a lost match? Because all the hooligans I’ve ever seen, anywhere, habitually destroy property when something doesn’t go their way.

Also, you can apparently debate the size of a dot on a map to the ground, but accept like it’s nothing the idea that a historically malleable group of people, with low inhibitions and prone to violence, easily manipulated when given any sense of belonging, somehow become bleeding hearts.

I won’t continue because we’re so OT we’re in the mountains, but remember those feelings in… I’ll give it a year.

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Did I ever say they throw roses? Of course they destroy stuff themselves. But, the important thing to note is that hooligans destroy other cities, usually, not their own.

Hence the overall surprise that they came out on the side of the police here.

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I think Russia is pretty much over with this coronavirus already. With lockdowns in the very beginning I think they realized they can’t do lockdowns the second time. So we’re kinda pretending everything’s good now Moscow Lifts Restrictions as Coronavirus Cases Recede - The Moscow Times

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A lot of hooligans have very distinct ideological and social values, so it really isn’t very surprising. St. Pauli’s ultras are definitely not the same as Lazio’s for example. Within each country you will find a wide variety of them. Some are very liberal, some are traditional, some are very keen on their specific rivalries or love/hate specific cities or industries or even particular people, so the term hooligan/ultras really applies to a diverse and wide array of people.

Now, having said that, it is an unfortunate fact - here at least - that entropy takes its toll even on the most benevolent of organisations and corruption and decadence can eventually be found even in charities and god-fearing religious endeavors, let alone an organisation of ultras where, let’s say that the standard ideas of what is allowed and what is decent behaviour was quite lax from the beginning. They are, by definition, gangs of people that revolve around a particular team or a city. The idea of some of them crossing into some more “traditional gang stuff” is really not “rubbish” at all.

I honestly want to keep this as light as possible and I will not get into the recorded violence and lawlesness of the whole situation. I’ll just post this glorious example of where we are at:

The hillarious title of this video is “The president of Larissa F.C. is trading the team for cheese and hasish” … It is NOT a joke and it is not a prank/montage … literally in the video the current owner/president of one of the most historical Greek teams is saying in that press conference that his two main rivals in the city of Larissa (a cheese factory owner and some drug gang who he avoids mentioning) can indeed collaborate and bring him some tonnes of cheesy and hasish and buy/trade the team off him :rofl: (what makes it funnier is that this person is one of the most notorious and high-profile lawyers in the country) … so, yeah, quite the clean family environment, for sure.

Now to stay on topic and enhance the “things sometimes are being done differently elsewhere/underthe hood” the coronavirus has been a fantastic opportunity for many people to either break the laws outright or simply ignore them or, even better, make the laws work in their favour.

For example our local mayor who has been accused of using up every penny of the coronavirus relief money that the government sents to our municipality to hire cleaning personel (of which we already have too many) for “election purposes”. Needless to say that those hirings are done with the highest standards of fairness and impartiality, as you can all very well imagine. Someone went publicly and claimed that one such position was announced on the 18th of January and the closing date to apply was the 19th of January. As I said: Fairness.
People are also claiming that the donated food and equipment for the poor and the infirm did not go to the intended recipients.
Central government checking mechanisms cannot travel through the country due to the coronavirus so, in many ways it is a “free for all” in some regards.

Now, if they get “funny ideas” in a small insignificant backwater like my village, I wonder/worry what kind of money is being tossed down the drain elsewhere where the funds are larger and more enticing. :confused:

P.s.

Also, the shop owners have nothing to donate:

Shops sell stuff. Donations are not always cash.

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That’s the point: shops don’t sell stuff right now, shops have been closed for quite a while.

Economy is so bad right now, go servers issue stimulus rating points.

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I am going to invest them on BitCoin ASAP :stuck_out_tongue:

Seriously though, it is not really funny that it actually happened:

And if you happened to watch any videos about the debacle of the most previous stimulus checks, you would have noticed a lot of comments saying that they’d get the money that was given to support the real economy and the actual expenses of households and pour them into cryptocurrency. Just wow. :confused:

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Ο Κούγιας στον OGS, θα τρελαθώ.

Ah, yes, because we didn’t have enough problems already.

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Btw, do you know conspiracy about coronavirus falling from the sky? The idea is that we’re directed not simply to avoid other humans, but specifically sit at home. And lots of governments actually clean the street surfaces. So it’s not just human-to-human, coronavirus falls from the sky, kinda like radioactive fallout, maybe from space. Probably stems from those talks about coronavirus coming from a meteor.

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I’ve always wondered about those street cleaning pictures. My impression was that this is usually done because it’s cheap and it looks like you are actively fighting the virus. I doubt it has any measurable effect.

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Indeed, kinda like searching under streetlight because there’s more light there. It’s not very helpful but at least they know how to do it.

I couldn’t choose just one

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Old post, but kinda true.

Smart people from the beginning were saying that it’s gonna be a long while. Politicians and other idiots on the other hand kinda tried to pretend and pray it’s gonna be over soon.

Anyone knows good mnemonic for pray vs prey?

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Prey has an “E” which can remind one that it is a thing that is eaten.
Pray has an “ay” which can remind one of “ayy lmao”

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I usually link mnemonics to my own language, a word with the same sequel of vowels for example, related to the word I want to remember.
And only one of the pair, the other takes the “not that one, so the other”.

Or, prey with e, as in elephant.

I remembered watching a SciShow video about that and it is true that there are millions or even billions of viruses floating at almost every height within the atmosphere:

So, it is less of a conspiracy and more of a “it is a possibility” thing.

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