This would be a revolution for the US culture (a necessary one, imho). The only reason why this time is different and a breach can be opened in american’s minds is that money make no difference against coronavirus.
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I estimate mortality rates to be around 0.1- 0.5% (you can try reading actual papers in medical journals). The numbers you see seem high, because there are a lot of people who are not tested, but have the virus (and milder symptoms). Different rates indicate different amount of testing. Even if you take the mortality rates at age groups and apply them to population pyramid you get much smaller numbers (this is still an overestimation).
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I don’t understand?
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I think it does, lots.
- You can stay isolated in a mansion easier, see all those rich people posting #stayinside stuff next to their huge pools.
- You have access to tests easier (rich people with no symptoms are known to get tests before poor people with symptoms).
- You have access to care/ drugs/ cures easier (legally or by “influence”).
- You don’t have to put yourself in danger to put food on the table, you can sit this one out.
I think it makes a whole lot of difference.
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Did you check the timestamp?
Text on the right of the screen in the video.
(And joke ruined 
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On the other hand, people die because of this but since they aren’t tested the documented reason isn’t covid.
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Oh, I see it now “paramedantic”
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It’s a royal mess out here. For background, our Constitution is federalist, meaning that powers not given to the federal government go to the individual states. Our Constitution doesn’t mention health care, so it’s presumptively unconstitutional for the federal government to regulate that field. Since the Constitution says what it says, the courts have tried fixing this from a few angles. First, the Constitution’s references to “general welfare” aren’t specific enough to grant broad powers over health care. So that’s a no-go. Second, the government tried to regulate health care using its interstate commerce powers. But our Supreme Court ruled against Obamacare 4-5 on that ground. At the same time, SCOTUS voted 5-4 to uphold Obamacare under the taxation power. To the swing vote, Chief Justice Roberts, the federal government could use a tax penalty to encourage compliance with otherwise unconstitutional programs. As you might expect, this reasoning isn’t the sort of angle that you want underpinning the country’s entire health system. And it upset a lot of conservatives and libertarians who generally favor states rights and limited federal powers.
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That one line explains so much…
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I think the most we can say with certainty is that the mortality is unknown. It’s not a very meaningful number anyways, as it depends on biological factors of the patient, the availability of medical support, the state of medicine at the respective hospital, etc. To measure it, we need to also include the administrative accuracy of the system, how many people are tested (and which people), etc.
It also seems that the illness manifests itself more heavily in those people who have been contaminated a lot, compared to those who got infected, but with less of the virus. If this is true, also the behaviour of the people in a country (lockdown vs. business as usual, wearing masks vs not) affect the mortality rate.
All in all, I think it’s meaningless to try and pinpoint the mortality rate at this point in time.
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If this is the case, why don’t individual states themselves opt to make health care in their state universal?
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“The disease is not a great leveller, the consequences of which everyone - rich or poor - suffers the same,”
“This is a myth which needs debunking. Those on the front line right now – bus drivers and shelf stackers, nurses, care home workers, hospital staff and shop keepers – are disproportionately the lowest paid members of our workforce. They are more likely to catch the disease because they are more exposed.”
And she added: “Those who live in tower blocks and small flats will find the lockdown a lot tougher. Those who work in manual jobs will be unable to work from home.”
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Because we’re bad at it. (Vermont tried and failed, to name just one example). More to the point, the U.S. has world-class private care providers, and something like a single player system would involve banning them from operating in that state. Not to mention that having 50 or more different health systems presents its own difficulties. In short, no state has overcome the institutional roadblocks. I find that unfortunate.
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I’m not sure how it works, but afaik EU countries have a kind of agreement regarding healthcare for EU citizens. It probably involves bureaucracy, but I’m pretty sure if a German tourist has an accident in Greece for example, they can access our healthcare system and sort it out.
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Yes money make a lot of difference on how you can live in Coronavirus times, but when you got the virus a reach and a poor have the same chance to survive. This in principle, until no vaccine is available out there. This is what I meant.
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I’ve read, I can’t remember specifics (I’m insomniac and it’s 3.30, sorry) that plasma from cured patients works really well in test cases but it’s obviously not enough for everyone, and certain covid patients with connections have gotten “prime shipments”.
Also, if you are Rihanna’s dad (example) a ventilator can become available out of nowhere.
In ER you’ll get the best care and you have money to get PPE and not think how to budget masks and gloves and of course you’re first in line if a cure comes up.
Absolutely different chance to survive.
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Mark, but this explains barely why the situation is like it is. US claim they are the most advanced democracy in the world. Democracy means that people can change the things (including the Constitution in order to improve it). So, if something is wrong, it can be changed and a large majority of the popular sentiment can make the difference as always happened since Ancient Greeks, Roman Empire, French Republic, English Democracy, and US itself (many times).
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Yup, claim.
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The Democratic People’s Republic is surely a haven for liberty and freedom, right?
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It’s the most Democratic nation on Earth, toycat told me so. Everyone is perfectly happy and not starving to death at all!
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