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This isn’t all that relevant, but I just learnt from L19 that, despite playing Go with his left hand, Iyama is – apparently – actually right handed.

He doesn’t even really remember when he started playing with his left hand. There was some mention of his teacher thinking it might help. However, he’s right handed.

L19 has a thread about the last game of the Iyama–Shibano Honinbo title match. Although there’s not really anything interesting in it.

By the way, I also found John Tilley’s thread about the site igo-kifu.com which “contains some 7420 records of Japanese title matches”.

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In GS Caltex Cup Kim Jiseok lost the track of time and timed out accidentaly.

Timestamp:

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Is there any place where one can follow this event?

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On the internet, where else.

Pairings for tomorrow (12 o’clock):

  • Fang Ruoxi vs Yin Mingming
  • Natalia vs Oh Yujin
  • Joanne Missingham vs Cho Seungah
  • Li Xinyi vs Manja
  • Xie Yimin vs Lu Minquan
  • Ueno Asami vs Lu Yuhua
  • Suzuki Ayumi vs Feng Yun
  • Nakamura Sumire vs Kim Cheayoung

Pairings are a but unexciting. I was hoping Euro players would get to play someone interesting.

In AI championship it seems there’re no KataGo or LeelaZero, just a ton of Chinese programs, a few other Asians and Golois.

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Whose?

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I was hoping for a link, and I even dared wishing it would be in English since it seems pretty international, but I can’t find it. Lack of accessibility is a bit frustrating with Go compared to Chess…

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@Gia Chinese time for the Chinese tournament.

@qnpnpmqppnp games will be relayed on Asian servers, as they always are. That’s good enough, right?

International games will be played on Fox. European nicknames should be Natalia and Manja (although the latter one returns “user not exists” for now).

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Depends what’s you call enough. I mean, yeah it’s fine but it’s the basic minimum.

I just find it disheartening that accessibility/visibility for international go tournaments is so poor, and the gap compared to chess so wide (see here for the current FIDE championship and women championship). Without going that far, even the Paris go tournament, a small event all things considered, had a basic website summarizing the info, the pairings, providing a link to all games etc.

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Actually here is a stern but very convenient place to keep track of tournaments: Wu Qingyuan Cup - Go to Everyone!

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It started, let’s all watch

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Any link please or reference? Your reports are awesome but it’s just we are not all expert in Asian servers.
Thank you.

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I’d put this in the Go stories thread, but my nemesis – the triple-post lock – continues to thwart my designs.

I wanted to share a story from 2007, with thanks to the author Michael Cucek (who seems to write mainly about politics, not Go).

In August, during his brief tenure as Chief Cabinet Secretary, Yosano Kaoru was asked how he intended to push forward the Cabinet’s political program when Ozawa Ichirō’s opposition coalition controlled the House of Councillors.

A serene Yosano replied, “In the world of Go, it is I who lead, ahead of Ozawa.”

In terms of reputation, as a certified 7th dan amateur in the game of Go, Yosano was on firm ground in his assessment. Ozawa, at 5th dan, was just not in his league.

However, Ozawa did not take the slight lying down. Through intermediaries he challenged Yosano to a match.

So it was on Sunday afternoon that Yosano, a gaggle of reporters, a 9th dan professional player and a knot of curious onlookers from the top ranks of political society sat in a high class Go lounge of a major hotel, waiting for Ozawa to show up. …

Three minutes before the scheduled time, Ozawa bustled in … The men proceeded to sit down at the board, Yosano playing black, Ozawa white. …

The two men had only played each other twice before. Twenty years ago, in their first meeting, Yosano had demolished Ozawa. However, in a rematch five years ago, the lower-ranked Ozawa eked out a bare victory over his rival. …

Yosano, furthermore, had reached the pinnacle of amateur 7th dan over 30 years ago. While an aficionado of the game, he had not been engaging in serious Go competitions for years.

Ozawa, by contrast, has been intensifying his study of Go of late, making weekly treks to a salon where he could test his ideas against high-powered pros. …

The match lasted 2 hours and 25 minutes. Two hundred and ninety stones.

A glance at the board made it clear: Ozawa had won.

No, that is not correct: Ozawa had conquered … Yosano by a humiliating 15 1/2 …

“I will not be able to sleep at night,” a stunned Yosano bleated. “Definitely, there is going to be a rematch.”

“Did I win?” a coy but obviously buoyant Ozawa chirruped. “I wasn’t sure until the very end. That I was able to receive this victory makes me, of course, very grateful.”

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Am I mad or is Yoonyoung live on BadukTV?

I just checked the channel for a random game to watch and found the livestream.

I’m not 100% sure because they’re wearing masks, but the girl on the left looks an awful lot like YY. In fact yeah, that’s her – she said she was playing this tournament, the IBK.

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Ah, the perks of reading Hangeul :wink::stuck_out_tongue:

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Hang on, is it a rerun?

She was discussing this yoseko on stream the other night.

Ah, I think I remember now that she said she was knocked out… yeah, seems this is a repeat. My bad.

It’s tagged as Live, though, which is a bit of false advertising if you ask me.

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I mean it’s a live relay?

They (other people on twitch not necessarily go) do this kind of thing, stream repeats at the end of a stream sometimes.

I mean it is live in the sense you can’t skip ahead, same as with an ordinary live stream.

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The Yoonyoung stream in which she discussed that game was a few days ago.

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I don’t think it detracts from the stream relay being live in a sense.

I mean it would be weird to call a football game replay on a different day “live” but it still would be live on tv in a sense.

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“Live (rerun)” in the title would be both honest and accurate.

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For a stream to be described as live is a statement that the content being broadcast is happening (almost) concurrently with that broadcast.

The designation live does not describe a type of video container defined by lacking proper forward and backward navigation.

It’s simply a rerun.

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