Guess the black stones

May I have a go?

This game is moderately well-known. 24 stones to place.

Hint

This game’s more than a century old.

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My guess


The lower left looks like an old variation of the Taisha.
The shape around O10 feels like a natural evolution.
I’m not so sure about the shape around R5. I have no idea how that white stone at R5 would make sense in variations that might result in this black shape. So perhaps my guess for black’s shape in that area is completely wrong.

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Correct!

That is actually the game position on the next move — or rather, from the next move in my thinking. I was dumb and forgot that Black lost a stone in the old taisha variation, but the problem still works.

Well done!

The game is Shusai–Shuei 1902, their antepenultimate encounter (in Waltheri): Tamura Yasuhisa (6p) vs. Honinbo Shuei (8p) | Waltheri's go pattern search. Shuei died in 1907, Shusai in 1940.

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Wait, are we done? :frowning:

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'Fraid so~

I guess it’s gennan’s turn now.

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Oh! I didn’t expect that.
But I also expected you to wait with calling it until others had made their guesses :flushed:

Usually we get a day or two for submissions, but I guess it was the Black Friday of rounds. :woman_shrugging:

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Oh, I haven’t been following the game.

I wasn’t aware of the etiquette, my bad.

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Well, I see three main options here:

  1. @gennan could take a go.

  2. gennan could give his go to @Gia.

  3. I could go again with a harder position, since I one I just offered was intentionally a bit easy. I’d also leave a day’s grace for guessing, even if gennan smashes it again.

Well, I was on my way to a guess, might as well post it.

Any mistakes blamed on undue stress. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Note on my own submissions:
When there’s a wall thing, I consistently choose the wrong side. :unamused:

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I was not fully correct. My C10 stone should be at C9.

I would like to give the next turn to Gia (if that doesn’t stress her out too much :wink:).

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My guess would have matched @gennan’s guess except I would have placed L4 at M6

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15 stones are missing.

1 point per correct guess, and any commentary worth more than my own, ie any commentary, welcome. :slight_smile:

Y’all have about 2 days :wink:

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Is it a pro game?

The players have a p after their name, and it seems official, don’t know if it counts. I had a bit difficulty to find it tbh.

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My guess

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My guess

…although I am not entirely content with the shapes on the right side.

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My guess

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My Guess for round #14

Summary


Definitely some heavy black group between the right side jumping white group and the lower right two white stones pushing it down. The upper right is less confusing, but I felt the left side is missing something, so I imagine they are still unresolved

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