Werewolf Game 5.1: Trouble in Steelwater Bog

Why would the protector be killed?

I woke up to 80 posts, what is happening?!

I’m very curious what happened the first night, who was targeted and protected. This doesn’t mean I’m asking the protector to come out.

I’m confused. Roy seems to be behaving erratically. I’m innocent, but if you want to waste a night on me, go on. (oh, nice one, wink)
I can’t vote for Hazel now, although James seems weird.

I really think now is the time to start killing, but it’s either really Hazel, or out of the blue Roy.

Also, Butch, accusing Bellz of not being his usual analytical self, now that James confirms him innocent, ouch, better send some flowers.

I don’t recall Hazel or Roy forming any particular alliances the previous days, that would help us weed out another snatcher, if we decide which one to believe. So, that’s unfortunate.

I’m voting for no one for now.

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would be killed by chance, either by the witch or by the snatchers. Since the protector is going to protect the oracle tonight it would be a waste for the snatchers to try to kill the oracel. instead they are going to kill someone they don’t like and hope they killed the protector.

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if we were to belive kingkaio:

Wasn’t that the second night?

That’s my take, too, but Butch made it sound like an either/or, which was confusing.

That was a rollercoaster to read. Wow! And yes, last night was the second night. We arrived in this bog the day before yesterday.

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Day one: No kill
Night one: No kill
Day two : Roy proclaims himself as oracle, No kill
Night two: the uncontested witch (kingkaio), claims to have saved Haze, No kill
Day three: James is the real oracle and Roy is going to die

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@papavero I know. My question was who was targeted and saved the first night.

Not to be answered.

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Let me try to put all the information together that we have so far:

  • We are 11 people. 3 of us are soulsnatchers. We have an oracle, a witch and a protector.
    Night 1:
  • nobody died, probably because the protector successfully protected the person the soulsnatchers tried to kill.
    Day 2:
  • Roy / syoon came forward on day 2 and claimed to be the oracle. He accused Hazel to be a soulsnatcher.
  • Hazel claimed to be innocent and Maze’s / kingkaio’s lover.
  • Kingkaio confirmed this and also claimed to be the witch.
    Night 2:
  • In night 2, nobody died. According to Kingkaio, Hazel was killed and revived by him.
    Day 3:
  • On day 3, Roy / syoon claimed to have found out that Vsotvep is innocent.
  • James / Leira claimed to be the true oracle, and to have found out that Vsotvep and Yebellz are innocent.

We know that…
…of Roy / syoon and Hazel, exactly one is a soulsnatcher.
…of Roy / syoon and James / Leira, at least one is a soulnatcher.
…Vsotvep is innocent.

Given the recent discussion, it looks as if Roy / syoon is lying. At the start of this day, Marlon / Gia voted alongside Roy / syoon to kill Hazel today (although that would, even if Hazel was a soulsnatcher, probably kill our witch Maze / kingkaio).

What I expect:

  • The witch can’t save anyone anymore - only kill. I assume that Hazel and Maze / kingkaio will probably be killed in night 3, without Maze / kingkaio will be able to use his killing potion.
  • The protector should protect James / Leira.
  • The oracle should check Gia.
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Oh, I’m an idiot. I didn’t think of that. :flushed: I’m sure it was mentioned, but I was so lost in your eyes, Kayo… See how you have my full attention? Once you pointed it out, it made sense on the spot… wink

Even if Hazel is a snatcher, we won’t kill her until at least we know our witch used the other potion as well. Let’s hope not on an innocent.

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Ok if I didn’t post a lot cuz I am in a new school and have some things to settle as it is a new one , and also promoting GodTheSaVAge in discord. also I don’t think you should reveal the witch role yet as it could get important when the detective reveals himself when he gets a kill.

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:neutral_face:

:man_juggling: :eyes: :open_book: :no_entry_sign:

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@RubyMineshaft, could you please consider replacing @李建澔2, if they don’t have time to participate?

I think it’s just disruptive (bordering on trolling) for someone to sign up and not participate.

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Meanwhile, in the eliminated players thread

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That’s why I said:

It could happen by chance.

I accused Bellz before James came out with his revelation. I’m currently convinced James is the oracle, as Roy has both inspected me and accused me of being a soulsnatcher. This latter 180 degree turn of Roy should convince anyone that Roy is lying and trying a desperate attempt to make me suspicious, but it won’t work, as both the fake and the real oracle agreed on my innocence.
Importantly, I myself know I’m innocent, thus that Roy is lying, and thus that Bellz is innocent.

That makes me think you’re a snatcher. Why the haste with killing Haze, who was unconfirmed, but now reluctance with killing Roy, who talked himself into a pickle?


If Maze Lander is not the witch, then the real witch should use the poison to kill Maze Lander tonight. If Maze is still alive tomorrow, he’s innocent. Claiming to be the witch, while not being the witch and with the real witch alive, is extremely risky, thus I’m pretty sure Maze Lander is speaking the truth.

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But you scratched that (or not? sorry, it was too many posts to digest all at once)

I can accept that, but as I said, you made it seem like you were saying it’s either/ or.

RE: Bellz, better send some flowers, or show at his steps with a sixpack of beers, 'cause basing your assumption that esteemed Professor Bellz is not “analytical enough”…

Was at the time confirmed of who I thought was the oracle. Roy is indeed not in the best place right now and I’m 90% certain is a snatcher, but we still have time. Why are you so eager to kill someone? I’m waiting for the day to unfold.

Also, Kayo and her batting lashes also voted for nobody, why are you singling me out?

I agree with the part about the witches.

I’m eager to kill a snatcher when I have 100% certainty. With Hazel I didn’t have that, but with Roy, I have 100% certainty, since I was accused of being a snatcher by the oracle.

If an oracle claiming someone is innocent and then suddenly claiming them not to be innocent a few hours later, is not extremely suspicious to you, I don’t know what is. And of course, since I know whether I’m innocent or not, I know whether Roy is lying or not, thus have certainty about what Roy’s role is.

Because Kayo didn’t earlier decide to vote for Hazel.

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OK, both make sense.
Still, I don’t know 100% that you are not a snatcher and y’all 3 are in this together (not highly likely, but still a possibility, it’s a bit weird for both oracles to choose you at the same night and declare you innocent- although Roy blurted some things that don’t add up).
EDIT: The fact that you know your role and feel certain about it doesn’t mean I have to trust you, yet.

I’d say it’s not unheard of to think about killing and the having second thoughts about it, when things seem to be unclear. It’s not like we can bring them back if we make an oopsie.

Agreed.

And you’re correct that I could be in cahoots with both oracles. If this is the case, the real oracle should reveal themselves.

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