What is a good sport?

[square.defender]

@PRHG

bad actors

@PRHG

noise

main problem is not angry trolls that “attack”(thumb down) everyone with same probability
main problem is that some layers of population would inevitably be attacked systematically more often than “usual users” just because they are unusual. Unusual enough user while doing nothing bad would be attacked not only by angry trolls but also by usual users

[JethOrensin]

@PRHG

But just because there might be some noise doesn’t mean that you can’t get a signal.

This will be entirely based on the usecase of that feature.

Even in the simpliest of usages, where it is supposed to be just a “thank you” feature, where clicking results in a “The opponent wants to thank you for your game” message, then you’d have people complaining or feeling downcast about their opponent not giving them a “thumbs up” or, even worse, for giving them a thumbs down.

It is a system which, by its design, generates more problems than benefits.

Also, this might seem inconsequential to some people:

@square.defender

some layers of population would inevitably be attacked systematically more often than “usual users” just because they are unusual. Unusual enough user while doing nothing bad would be attacked not only by angry trolls but also by usual users

…but it is something that happens a lot. In many online games, deviating from the “current meta” is a cardinal sin, that is almost impossible to be excused, even if you end up out-performing the people that complain.

Here is an example from 2020 League of Legends, where I used a very “off meta” pick (Malphite Support):

6 straight victories, 5 MVPs (given by the automated system of the website, which calculates the objective measures and contributions of each player) and the other game is a flawless KDA victory.

Objectively a terrific performance and getting the MVP as a support is a difficult feat to accomplish.
However, I got flammed each game like there is a barbeque contest and in many cases the flamming didn’t stop, even when I proved the dissenters wrong by practically carrying them to victory and without flaming them back.
As for honors/rating, from my teammates? I usually got zero out of the possible four. And why? For daring to deviate from their precious “meta” in a ranked game.

Rating/honor systems like that provide nothing useful, compared to the toxic point of contest they generate within the playerbase.

Unlike here where the system is still inscrutable, the honor system in League of Legends had a very specific usecase and was thoroughly presented and explained, however the playerbase had its own “ideas”… I do not know if there was ever a useful signal in that noise, but there was definitely a message that “honor/rating systems are more trouble than they are worth”.

[Sadaharu]

The official explanation is out:

The Good Sport "feature"

Hello OGS! There’s been some (in hindsight obvious) concern about the “Good Sport” feature, what it is and how it will be used. For those that haven’t encountered it yet, when a game ends you’ll now see a thumbs up thumbs down prompt below the rematch button that looks something like this: [image] What is this? It’s a low-key feedback system. Was your opponent a good sport - that is to say, did they play their game without throwing a tantrum, abandoning, delaying your game, calling you rude…

[SomeGoGuy]

@Sadaharu

The official explanation is out:

Well worth reading. @anoek laid things out thoughtfully.

Personally, I’m not convinced this is a constructive initiative. Just some guy’s opinion.

[DoubleU]

Isn’t this a bit anglocentric?

Certainly. Some people are like that.

[DoubleU]

Some ICE/MAGA inspiration?

What does that mean?

[Groin]

The feature has been cancelled so I don’t see the point to elaborate more on it.