2 Likes
I have no idea whatās going on in that other thread 
, but our map is like this
I know there are much worse cases than this on the map, where every separate goban part would be a ponnuki, at most :-P.
(maybe not island nation, anyway if the term is wrong thatās what I meant 
)
2 Likes
I would ālikeā your post if I could, but it seems like I ran out of daily ālikesā due to the publication of the detective go kibitz thread 
3 Likes
Feel free to substitute with your own preferred ranks/rank ranges!
19 Likes
Can you make a go board out of this?
No, I posted it as an example that wouldnāt work.
1 Like
1 Like
Isnāt it 5.5?
et. al.
3 Likes
My point earlier was that less experienced players playing as black will not be able to fully capitalize on the first-play advantage like a very experienced player can. Should two 20kyus use the same komi as two 3-dans? Is the purpose of komi to ālevel the playing fieldā for theoretical perfect play, or ālevel the playing fieldā for real-world play?
8 Likes
This point has been discussed extensively in one of the threads about komi. Koba (IIRC) and I have both talked about it
1 Like
Iām not sure what the proper thread for discussing the topic would be.
Thoughts Regarding Komi Tie-Breaker has been locked, and wouldnāt really be the right place anyway.
What is the "Strong bot based fair komi" for 19x19 using Japanese-like (for example, KataGo) rules is specifically about estimating komi with bots.
New way of deciding Komi is about komi bidding (which isnāt that new).
Thue-Morse (Fair Sharing) Sequence: A possible alternative to komi? is only tangential, as is the Nonstandard board size komi discussion.
Thereās also Why Japanese Rules and Chinese Rules use different Komi Number? (6,5 and 7,5) but the stated topic of the thread has nothing to do with rank.
Perhaps the most relevant (or permissive) are Komi and the total number of moves to equalize and Measuring the Perfection Gap: a case for Integer Komi.
Personally, I havenāt seen an intuitive argument for why the āpractical valueā of the first move should either increase or decrease with the strength of the players, or indeed why it shouldnāt.
The value of moves is objective, so whatās really being studied is how the players interact with them.
4 Likes
For instance, suppose Whiteās lawyer argues that in a DDK game, komi should be greater.
He says that Black will probably open with 4-4 and that White will likely invade and play the weak midgame hane (10), and that therefore Blackās first move is worth more than allowed for.
Blackās lawyer, though, could reasonably respond that Black might not play (5) but a poorer move, eg.
and that the chance of this possiblity occurring means that Blackās first move isnāt worth much at all.
Without statistical polling, thereās no coming to an answer.
2 Likes
Lately Iāve been attracted to komi bidding, freeāopening (delayed komi) Go, and even Thue-Morse; so the issue of exact or otherwise āfairā komi on an empty board has become less interesting to me.
2 Likes
